Comments on: New Alternative to The Orthodox Monopoly on Marriage in Israel http://www.torahfromsincity.com/2008/06/20/new-alternative-to-the-orthodox-monopoly-on-marriage-in-israel/ Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:11:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Heide Gibson http://www.torahfromsincity.com/2008/06/20/new-alternative-to-the-orthodox-monopoly-on-marriage-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Heide Gibson Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:31:54 +0000 http://www.torahfromsincity.com/blog/?p=22#comment-54 Wow, I’m a little bit speechless. I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be for Israelis. How ironic that a life event which is meant to strengthen our families and traditions is actually causing deep divides, heart break, and resentment through the actions of those who should be embracing the joy of a Jewish marriage. Wow, I’m a little bit speechless. I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be for Israelis. How ironic that a life event which is meant to strengthen our families and traditions is actually causing deep divides, heart break, and resentment through the actions of those who should be embracing the joy of a Jewish marriage.

]]> By: Felipe Goodman http://www.torahfromsincity.com/2008/06/20/new-alternative-to-the-orthodox-monopoly-on-marriage-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Felipe Goodman Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:22:03 +0000 http://www.torahfromsincity.com/blog/?p=22#comment-52 Heide; In Israel there is no separation of Church and State when it comes to marriages. You don't have the option of going to a Justice of The Peace like we have here in The United States or in most of The Western World. Unfortunately Israel's official religion is NOT Judaism as a whole but ORTHODOXY, that means that only Orthodox Rabbis may officially marry Jews in Israel and have the ceremony registered as official by The State of Israel. Any Wedding performed by a Conservative or Reform in the United States is automatically recognized by The State of Israel because of international treaties with The United States and because when we sign a marriage license as officiants in The U.S. the marriage is officially registered by The State. Israel recognizes the Civil Marriage License we sign but The Orthodox Rabbinate still won't recognize the religious wedding. Israel MUST CHANGE the way in which Weddings are done! There is absolutely NO REASON other than politics and the greed of power as to why this happens. The political system is such that in order to be able to have the majority in The Knesset, The Secular Political Parties often ally themselves with Ultra Orthodox Political Parties that take the entire country hostage in issues such as these. Heide;
In Israel there is no separation of Church and State when it comes to marriages. You don’t have the option of going to a Justice of The Peace like we have here in The United States or in most of The Western World. Unfortunately Israel’s official religion is NOT Judaism as a whole but ORTHODOXY, that means that only Orthodox Rabbis may officially marry Jews in Israel and have the ceremony registered as official by The State of Israel. Any Wedding performed by a Conservative or Reform in the United States is automatically recognized by The State of Israel because of international treaties with The United States and because when we sign a marriage license as officiants in The U.S. the marriage is officially registered by The State. Israel recognizes the Civil Marriage License we sign but The Orthodox Rabbinate still won’t recognize the religious wedding.

Israel MUST CHANGE the way in which Weddings are done! There is absolutely NO REASON other than politics and the greed of power as to why this happens. The political system is such that in order to be able to have the majority in The Knesset, The Secular Political Parties often ally themselves with Ultra Orthodox Political Parties that take the entire country hostage in issues such as these.

]]> By: Heide Gibson http://www.torahfromsincity.com/2008/06/20/new-alternative-to-the-orthodox-monopoly-on-marriage-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Heide Gibson Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:08:36 +0000 http://www.torahfromsincity.com/blog/?p=22#comment-51 Unfortunately, I am not well educated on this issue. I am curious why civil ceremonies are not available in Israel. Unfortunately, I am not well educated on this issue. I am curious why civil ceremonies are not available in Israel.

]]> By: Felipe Goodman http://www.torahfromsincity.com/2008/06/20/new-alternative-to-the-orthodox-monopoly-on-marriage-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Felipe Goodman Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:51:12 +0000 http://www.torahfromsincity.com/blog/?p=22#comment-38 Hillel; I agree, but the problem now as compared to 40 years ago is that people just don't want to go through the whole complicated process that happens before the wedding which is 80% of the painful situation. That is why now they are leaving the country by droves to get married. Hillel; I agree, but the problem now as compared to 40 years ago is that people just don’t want to go through the whole complicated process that happens before the wedding which is 80% of the painful situation. That is why now they are leaving the country by droves to get married.

]]> By: Hillel Aronson http://www.torahfromsincity.com/2008/06/20/new-alternative-to-the-orthodox-monopoly-on-marriage-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Hillel Aronson Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:37:43 +0000 http://www.torahfromsincity.com/blog/?p=22#comment-35 Interesting, but it is not necessary to leave the country for the civil ceremony. About 40 years ago I heard of a couple who had an orthodox ceremony, which they considered the civil ceremony, and then had a Conservative (now Masorti) ceremony, to which they invited their guests and which they considered their religious ceremony Interesting, but it is not necessary to leave the country for the civil ceremony. About 40 years ago I heard of a couple who had an orthodox ceremony, which they considered the civil ceremony, and then had a Conservative (now Masorti) ceremony, to which they invited their guests and which they considered their religious ceremony

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